[Mnbird] Bird Flu Spreaders

Thu Apr 14 14:37:11 CDT 2022

Thank you Tami for that summary, I appreciate it.

I'm glad to know that I do have a place to go - I'd pay, just to know :)

Thank you,
Carla

On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 2:22 PM Tami Vogel <tvogel at wrcmn.org> wrote:

> Depending on the timing it could have been WNV. Jays just literally drop
> dead from it - they, along with crows, have a very high mortality rating
> for WNV.
>
> The "East Coast" virus/disease - whatever that pathogen was - that went
> killed so many birds last summer never made its way to Minnesota. To my
> knowledge no one ever pinpointed the cause of the deaths nor why it didn't
> continue spreading, but personally I'm just thankful it didn't.
>
> We do not do testing at WRC on specimens or for things like HPAI, WNV,
> etc. We send our specimens and/or swabs/bloodwork to the UMN DLab. They are
> open to the public. Any time someone wants to know why their squirrels are
> dying (are they being poisoned is what we're often asked), or if you are
> finding deceased birds in your yard, you can always submit them at the DLab
> for testing.
>
> They have information on how to do this, and the costs involved, on their
> website.
>
> Hope that helps and I'm so sorry for the loss of your blue jays. On a
> personal note we lost several in our Afton yard to them last year as well
> when in other years of WNV we haven't.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Tami Vogel
>
> Communications Director
>
> Wildlife Rehabilitation Center of Minnesota
>
> www.wrcmn.org
>
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>
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> ------------------------------
> *From:* C.J. Kahle <cjk at umn.edu>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 14, 2022 2:09 PM
> *To:* Tami Vogel <tvogel at wrcmn.org>
> *Cc:* Carol Cummins <carol.brookridge at gmail.com>; Pamela Brustman <
> gleskarider at gmail.com>; DONALD GRUSSING Owner <cdrussin at centurylink.net>;
> mnbird <mnbird at lists.mnbird.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Mnbird] Bird Flu Spreaders
>
> Sorry about interjecting in the middle here, but -
>
> Question about the Blue Jays -
> late fall, we had nearly 6 dead blue jays within a two week period. I
> called it in and never got a call back.
> At the time, I heard Blue Jays (along with Starlings and something else)
> were dying due to eating the cicadas that had come out. It never made sense
> to me, and
> I was disappointed to never have an answer. (we even kept them in the
> freezer if needed)
>
> If this happens again, who is the best place to call (Is it the wildlife
> center?)
>
> Thank you,
> Carla K.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 2:01 PM Tami Vogel via Mnbird <
> mnbird at lists.mnbird.net> wrote:
>
> They've been saying that for a couple weeks now.
>
> As of yet, we're not seeing it in songbirds, but we have sent in a swab
> from one this week. If that comes back positive then we'll update messaging
> and begin advising people to pull their bird feeders. There was a blue jay
> that tested positive in Canada and a crow here at the WRC, but we've not
> seen or heard any reports of blue jays (who use feeders) being sick. Since
> crows typically don't come to feeders, we're not advising people to pull
> feeders (same precaution as waterfowl though - if you have crows/waterfowl
> feeding under your feeders you'll want to make that  area inaccessible or
> pull the feeders).
>
> If we start seeing sick blue jays, that message will change and we'll
> update everyone asap.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Tami Vogel
>
> Communications Director
>
> Wildlife Rehabilitation Center of Minnesota
>
> www.wrcmn.org
>
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> *From:* Carol Cummins <carol.brookridge at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:52 PM
> *To:* Tami Vogel <tvogel at wrcmn.org>
> *Cc:* Pamela Brustman <gleskarider at gmail.com>; DONALD GRUSSING Owner <
> cdrussin at centurylink.net>; mnbird <mnbird at lists.mnbird.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Mnbird] Bird Flu Spreaders
>
> I just read a post in the afternoon StarTribune email that the Raptor
> Center is now recommending that bird feeders be taken down. Is that true?
>
>
> Carol Cummins
> 612-481-3430
> carolcumminsmn at gmail.com
>
> On Apr 14, 2022, at 1:13 PM, Tami Vogel via Mnbird <
> mnbird at lists.mnbird.net> wrote:
>
> 
> Agreed - and there ARE so many unknowns about this outbreak of the virus.
> We're trying to gather as much information as we can to help us and other
> wildlife hospitals make informed decisions.
>
> As of yet, we're not seeing it in songbirds, but we have sent in swabs
> from some this week. We will of course keep this list updated if we find it
> has jumped over to songbirds. I honestly don't want to even contemplate
> that right now.
>
> I always love watching the migration through the listservs, too, Pam. A 2
> nd and 3rd fox sparrow showed up today at my house and are busily
> scratching with 70 or so juncos. We still have a large flock of pine
> siskins and a handful of redpolls. A dozen or so purple finches are mixed
> in as well. No pine warblers or yellow-rumpeds yet!
>
> Your new property sounds so beautiful. How fun to totally switch habitats
> like that.
>
>
> All my best,
> Tami in Afton
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Pamela Brustman <gleskarider at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 14, 2022 12:11 PM
> *To:* Tami Vogel <tvogel at wrcmn.org>
> *Cc:* DONALD GRUSSING Owner <cdrussin at centurylink.net>; mnbird <
> mnbird at lists.mnbird.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Mnbird] Bird Flu Spreaders
>
> Tami- thank you for that information, it is a very helpful bit of
> information to further understand the entire story.
> I regret my statement vis a vis this, but it IS very common for people to
> misinterpret singleton or few instances as pointing to a cause when not all
> data are in.
>
> And, I forgot the part about tracking it, and should have remembered from
> last go round
>
> Kingfishers!
>
> Your posts are always informative and I look forward to hearing your
> sightings as they usually precede who arrives in my location by a week or
> so.
> Or, they did when I was in Oak Grove. Now in St Michael on the Crow, that
> maybe isn't true.
>
> Good birding !
> - Pamela
> Never give up on a dream just because of the length of time it will take
> to accomplish it. The time will pass anyway. - Unknown
>
> “There are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot.”
> ― Aldo Leopold
> I am one who cannot.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 10:35 AM Tami Vogel via Mnbird <
> mnbird at lists.mnbird.net> wrote:
>
> Those species are not, so far, shown to be susceptible to this recent
> outbreak of HPAI, which involves multiple strains. Nor were they the last
> time around.
>
> We are taking swabs for testing of many species not currently listed in an
> effort to help wildlife hospitals across the nation get a better view of
> the virus' scope.
>
> Through this, we've added several new species to the "susceptible list" in
> the past three weeks, including kingfishers. We're waiting on the required
> confirmation after a positive at the UMN VDL.
>
> It is spreading through waterfowl and the susceptible species (list
> available at APHIS USDA). Since it is high path (the HP of HPAI), all you
> have to do is walk through duck/goose poop and you are spreading the virus.
> Once one bird gets the virus it spreads like wildfire.
>
> I'm happy to answer any questions off channel. Just wanted to correct this
> misinformation.
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Tami Vogel
> Communications and Development Director
> Wildlife Rehabilitation Center of Minnesota
> www.wrcmn.org
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Mnbird <mnbird-bounces at lists.mnbird.net> on behalf of DONALD
> GRUSSING Owner via Mnbird <mnbird at lists.mnbird.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 14, 2022, 10:14 AM
> *To:* mnbird
> *Subject:* [Mnbird] Bird Flu Spreaders
>
> Waterfowl are often cited in the media as the birds spreading the bird
> flu.  But I have never seen video of a mallard or a wild goose sauntering
> into a barn filled with thousands of turkeys or chickens. But I have seen
> house sparrows, starlings and common pigeons (rock doves) flying into the
> many openings on such buildings.  And virtually every farm yard has sizable
> populations of at least one of these species present. Poultry farmers would
> do well to try to control the local populations of these species.
> Certainly they can get the disease from migrating waterfowl. But these
> common, unprotected by law, species must be major vectors in bird flu
> transmission.
>
> Don Grussing
> Minnetonka
>
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