[Mnbird] Bird Flu Spreaders

C.J. Kahle cjk at umn.edu
Thu Apr 14 14:09:55 CDT 2022


Sorry about interjecting in the middle here, but -

Question about the Blue Jays -
late fall, we had nearly 6 dead blue jays within a two week period. I
called it in and never got a call back.
At the time, I heard Blue Jays (along with Starlings and something else)
were dying due to eating the cicadas that had come out. It never made sense
to me, and
I was disappointed to never have an answer. (we even kept them in the
freezer if needed)

If this happens again, who is the best place to call (Is it the wildlife
center?)

Thank you,
Carla K.


On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 2:01 PM Tami Vogel via Mnbird <
mnbird at lists.mnbird.net> wrote:

> They've been saying that for a couple weeks now.
>
> As of yet, we're not seeing it in songbirds, but we have sent in a swab
> from one this week. If that comes back positive then we'll update messaging
> and begin advising people to pull their bird feeders. There was a blue jay
> that tested positive in Canada and a crow here at the WRC, but we've not
> seen or heard any reports of blue jays (who use feeders) being sick. Since
> crows typically don't come to feeders, we're not advising people to pull
> feeders (same precaution as waterfowl though - if you have crows/waterfowl
> feeding under your feeders you'll want to make that  area inaccessible or
> pull the feeders).
>
> If we start seeing sick blue jays, that message will change and we'll
> update everyone asap.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Tami Vogel
>
> Communications Director
>
> Wildlife Rehabilitation Center of Minnesota
>
> www.wrcmn.org
>
> www.facebook.com/WRCMN
>
> Twitter/IG    @WRCMN
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Carol Cummins <carol.brookridge at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:52 PM
> *To:* Tami Vogel <tvogel at wrcmn.org>
> *Cc:* Pamela Brustman <gleskarider at gmail.com>; DONALD GRUSSING Owner <
> cdrussin at centurylink.net>; mnbird <mnbird at lists.mnbird.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Mnbird] Bird Flu Spreaders
>
> I just read a post in the afternoon StarTribune email that the Raptor
> Center is now recommending that bird feeders be taken down. Is that true?
>
>
> Carol Cummins
> 612-481-3430
> carolcumminsmn at gmail.com
>
> On Apr 14, 2022, at 1:13 PM, Tami Vogel via Mnbird <
> mnbird at lists.mnbird.net> wrote:
>
> 
> Agreed - and there ARE so many unknowns about this outbreak of the virus.
> We're trying to gather as much information as we can to help us and other
> wildlife hospitals make informed decisions.
>
> As of yet, we're not seeing it in songbirds, but we have sent in swabs
> from some this week. We will of course keep this list updated if we find it
> has jumped over to songbirds. I honestly don't want to even contemplate
> that right now.
>
> I always love watching the migration through the listservs, too, Pam. A 2
> nd and 3rd fox sparrow showed up today at my house and are busily
> scratching with 70 or so juncos. We still have a large flock of pine
> siskins and a handful of redpolls. A dozen or so purple finches are mixed
> in as well. No pine warblers or yellow-rumpeds yet!
>
> Your new property sounds so beautiful. How fun to totally switch habitats
> like that.
>
>
> All my best,
> Tami in Afton
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Pamela Brustman <gleskarider at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 14, 2022 12:11 PM
> *To:* Tami Vogel <tvogel at wrcmn.org>
> *Cc:* DONALD GRUSSING Owner <cdrussin at centurylink.net>; mnbird <
> mnbird at lists.mnbird.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Mnbird] Bird Flu Spreaders
>
> Tami- thank you for that information, it is a very helpful bit of
> information to further understand the entire story.
> I regret my statement vis a vis this, but it IS very common for people to
> misinterpret singleton or few instances as pointing to a cause when not all
> data are in.
>
> And, I forgot the part about tracking it, and should have remembered from
> last go round
>
> Kingfishers!
>
> Your posts are always informative and I look forward to hearing your
> sightings as they usually precede who arrives in my location by a week or
> so.
> Or, they did when I was in Oak Grove. Now in St Michael on the Crow, that
> maybe isn't true.
>
> Good birding !
> - Pamela
> Never give up on a dream just because of the length of time it will take
> to accomplish it. The time will pass anyway. - Unknown
>
> “There are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot.”
> ― Aldo Leopold
> I am one who cannot.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 10:35 AM Tami Vogel via Mnbird <
> mnbird at lists.mnbird.net> wrote:
>
> Those species are not, so far, shown to be susceptible to this recent
> outbreak of HPAI, which involves multiple strains. Nor were they the last
> time around.
>
> We are taking swabs for testing of many species not currently listed in an
> effort to help wildlife hospitals across the nation get a better view of
> the virus' scope.
>
> Through this, we've added several new species to the "susceptible list" in
> the past three weeks, including kingfishers. We're waiting on the required
> confirmation after a positive at the UMN VDL.
>
> It is spreading through waterfowl and the susceptible species (list
> available at APHIS USDA). Since it is high path (the HP of HPAI), all you
> have to do is walk through duck/goose poop and you are spreading the virus.
> Once one bird gets the virus it spreads like wildfire.
>
> I'm happy to answer any questions off channel. Just wanted to correct this
> misinformation.
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Tami Vogel
> Communications and Development Director
> Wildlife Rehabilitation Center of Minnesota
> www.wrcmn.org
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Mnbird <mnbird-bounces at lists.mnbird.net> on behalf of DONALD
> GRUSSING Owner via Mnbird <mnbird at lists.mnbird.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 14, 2022, 10:14 AM
> *To:* mnbird
> *Subject:* [Mnbird] Bird Flu Spreaders
>
> Waterfowl are often cited in the media as the birds spreading the bird
> flu.  But I have never seen video of a mallard or a wild goose sauntering
> into a barn filled with thousands of turkeys or chickens. But I have seen
> house sparrows, starlings and common pigeons (rock doves) flying into the
> many openings on such buildings.  And virtually every farm yard has sizable
> populations of at least one of these species present. Poultry farmers would
> do well to try to control the local populations of these species.
> Certainly they can get the disease from migrating waterfowl. But these
> common, unprotected by law, species must be major vectors in bird flu
> transmission.
>
> Don Grussing
> Minnetonka
>
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